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Message*:	>Reading all this mod stuff is >fascinating, however I find it >difficult to agree that the >getting stoned and beating people >up bit contributes to being >a black music fan, of >course as stated in Steves >very readable text the one >thing that these mods of >the 60's were not is >being a fan of black >music. As long as it >was danceable that was all >that mattered. Nothing wrong with >that of course, just a >shame that they missed out >on "real" soul music. OV >Wright never had a northern >soul record for example but >has to be one of >the most revered and intense >soul artiste of the 60's >through to the early 80's. > >I was recently talking to a >guy at work, in his >40's, who described how back >in the 70's his idea >of fun was to start >a big fight, wreck a >bar scaring the locals to >death then do a runner >before the police arrived, he >wore braces bovver boots and >of course was a skinhead, >a completely different musical scene >to the mod one yet >very similar in behaviour and >attitude.Now call me a boring >old fart if you like >(my wife usually does!), but >I have managed to collect >and appreciate all kinds of >RnB music since 1957, from >doo-wop, jump blues, swing, deep >soul and northern all without >ever feeling the need to >smash someones face in.I did >once take uppers at an >allnighter at the Catacombs and >I agree with Steves comments >re ones wedding tackle. I >have not taking them since! > >Another work colleague is at the >moment an out and out >mod, in his 20's he >has the scooter and parka >and goes to weekend rallys, >however his hero is Paul >Weller, he has no particular >interest in northern soul and >black music.! >Still as someone once said - >different strokes etc.etc. >Still Sheffield certainly sounds like the >fun place of the 60's. >Me I had Whitley Bay, >say no more. The local >club played mostly Dave Bruebeck >otherwise there was the YMCA, >the kids would take along >the latest Fourmost or Honeycombs >record whilst I would turn >up with Rufus Thomas on >London, needless to say it >never got played. However salvation >was to come with the >opening of the Club-A -Gogo >in Newcastle. All the current >touring artistes appeared and solid >RnB music was provided. Everybody >from Sonny Boy Williamson to >Mary Wells and Garnet Mimms >et al were booked. >However the northern and mod scene >was virtually non existent, not >till I moved to Manchester >in 1970 did I reliase >the full extent of this >scene.I agree with Steves description >of the Teddy Boys of >the 50's, whilst never one,my >dress sense started at 14" >trouser bottoms (my dad would >not let me have 12"), >winckle pickers with cuban heels >and buckles, suit jacket and >jeans, oh and don't forget >to turn that shirt collar >up at the back. Could >never understand that mods and >rockers thing, I was quite >happy to play a Gene >Vincent or Fats Domino album >then maybe Solomon Burkes RocknSoul >LP followed by Otis Blue, >anything as long as it >was not English! It was >always my proud boast back >when I had around 2000 >singles that not one was >UK. It is no suprise >then that I had no >time for those mealy mouthed >mods who would sing the >praises of the Small Faces >and the Who, though admittedly >these kind of groups did >introduce a lot of people >to decent RnB by including >their watered down versions into >their acts.I recently heard the >Who's version of the Eddie >Holland classic "Leaving Here", from >a recent box set, quite >dreadfull, still there you go. > >I intend to return with some >more observations at a later >date.Until then over to you. >

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